Gaza Anomalies Blow PCP’s Circuits: Result – The Sounds of Silence

A few friends of mine went to a party in Jerusalem that was primarily made up Anglophone reporters, people who work for NGOs and UN agencies. What amazed them was the pervasive sense of the people they met and spoke with that Israel was the greatest human rights violator in the world and that the dismantling of Israel would be a great step forward for global human rights.

Now the idiocy of this position, the suicidal nature of this strategy to advance human rights is nothing short of breathtaking. Take Israel out of the Middle East and the region becomes nothing but Hama rules… especially when the nastiest people — those who want to destroy Israel — would feel empowered by such a victory. But try and tell that to people who are smart enough to believe they can’t be wrong, and credulous enough to believe the demopaths who pull their chains on a daily basis. And as a result, they are prime targets for a hate campaign against Israel.

The latest news from Gaza, Israel, and the West Bank illustrates all the anomalies involved in this fundamental failure of the “human rights” community to understand what’s going on: black hearts and red spades galore. Melanie Phillips has a superb column which analyzes the current, mind-boggling situation in the Arab-Israeli conflict, with the Fatah “refugees” from Gaza seeking asylum in Israel.

Refugees From Whom?
The Spectator MONDAY, 4TH AUGUST 2008
Melanie Phillips

Extraordinary developments in Gaza have given a new meaning to the term ‘Palestinian refugees’. As the Jerusalem Post reports, fierce fighting in Gaza between Fatah and Hamas over the weekend, in which 11 people died and dozens more were wounded, resulted in 180 Fatah refugees fleeing from what they called a ‘war of genocide’ by Hamas against Fatah supporters. And where did they flee to? Why, to Israel, of course — which allowed them in and proceeded to treat 23 of them (some of whom were wounded by the Israeli army after they approached the crossing into Israel) in Israeli hospitals.

This is one of the most important anomalies for those who follow the current PCP narrative about the Middle East in which Israeli crimes against the Palestinian people explain the ferocious hatred of the Palestinians for the Israelis. According to that version of events — largely the one that liberals have taken over by adopting the Palestinian narrative of suffering — the last place these Palestinian “warriors” would go was Israel, their mortal enemy who is trying to commit genocide against their people. If the Israelis want to wipe out Palestinian civilians, how much the more would they want to kill Palestinian “militants”?

And yet, this is not a new story. When King Hussein, “the moderate,” found himself dealing with a restive Palestinian population in 1970, he slaughtered some 10,000 of them — men, women and children — in “Black September.” The Palestinians fled his tender mercies across the Jordan to Israel where the Israelis, obligingly, shipped them over to Lebanon, where, within five years, they plunged that unhappy land into a seven-year war that killed over 100,000 civilians. When Israel finally put an end to that civil war by invading in 1982, and the Phalanage took advantage of their upper hand to slaughter several hundred Palestinians at Sabra and Shatilla in revenge for Damur, the terrified inhabitants of the camps ran immediately to the Israeli positions outside the camp for protection. Why? Because they knew, despite all the “narratives” that when the chips are down, you can expect more mercy from the Jews than your fellow Arabs.

These are revelatory moments, when you see not the “public transcript” but what people really think. In honor-shame cultures they can be deeply embarrassing, since the public transcript is the “honorable” one, and the revelations that reverse that — like in the story of the Emperor’s New Clothes — are almost by definition shameful. Participants might prefer not to remember these, might even seek to reverse them by insisting still more shrilly on the original “narrative.” But outsiders need to pay close attention, because these rare moments are infinitely more revealing than the “public transcript.”

These refugees say they cannot return to Gaza because they will be killed. How fortunate, therefore, that their own Fatah leader, Mahmoud Abbas, can give them sanctuary in the West Bank!

But hang on – Abbas won’t let them in. Yup, with the exception of five individuals whom he did allow in, he’s denied them all sanctuary. He says they should go back to Gaza.

Before we get into the explanations proferred, let me make a medievalist’s remark. This is a staggering act of cowardice. Any warlord has to protect his men above all. If he fails to do so, he loses their loyalty. To refuse safety to men who have suffered from their adherence to your banner — unless it was their fault — shows your weakness.

And the invaluable Khaled abu Toameh tells us the reason why:

    PA officials explained that the reason behind their refusal to absorb the new ‘refugees’ was their desire not to encourage other residents of the Gaza Strip to leave. ‘Everyone knows that if we allow people to leave the Gaza Strip, almost all the residents living there would try to cross the border into Israel,’ said a senior PA official.

More revelations: how do people vote with their feet? Talk to an advocate of PCP and he or she will insist on Hamas’ popularity in Gaza, on the fact that were there another election they’d win again. Public transcript reified.

But check the hidden transcript and you find out some very different sentiments. 70%, according to some estimates, would prefer to have the Israelis return. The voices that openly express both admiration and longing for Israeli rule are nothing short of astonishing. They’re also shameful for the alpha male hyper-testosteronic Palestinian spokesmen whom our MSM chose to credit with speaking for the Palestinian people. And so we don’t hear about them much.

But there was also another reason:

    The last thing Abbas needs is another 180 bitter Fatah thugs from the Gaza Strip patrolling the streets of Ramallah, Bethlehem and Nablus and imposing a reign of terror on the local population. Past experience has shown that the Palestinians in the West Bank have never been enthusiastic about the presence of their brethren from the Gaza Strip among them.

This remark illuminates the inferred comments above: the reason that the Palestinian commoners, if allowed to voice their own opinion without the pressures of an honor-shame driven public opinion and the threat of reprisal by the mafiosi running the show, prefer the Israelis is that Israeli enemies show more respect for them — their lives and their rights — than their own leaders. What does a “human rights” advocate do with this data?

So now Israel, with its iron commitment to human rights, is to hear a court case today where it will be argued that Israel has a moral duty to grant asylum to these Fatah men.

Well one thing a good “human rights” advocate like the folks at the party mentioned in the introduction might do is scoff: “Israel’s iron clad commitment to human rights?!?!? You must be kidding.” That’s an unthinkable thought because for them, even if they’ve gotten it wrong, it can only be by degree… slightly exaggerated, maybe, but not completely wrong. Not inverted. For them it would simply not make sense for a Gazan to say, “during the Israeli occupation, I was 100 times freer [than under the Palestinian Authority].“

It cannot enter their minds as a working hypothesis that Israeli violations of Palestinian rights — the checkpoints, the barrier, the restrictions, the military attacks with their incidence of civilian casualties — are highly restrained responses to a brutal political culture that has as much contempt and disregard for its own people as it does hatred and loathing of its enemies. This political culture attempts not to violate Israelis rights, but massacre them outright, all the while firing on them from their own civilian habitations so as to amplify the number of their own people who, they can claim, are victims of Zionist aggression.

Therefore none of these anomalies can penetrate their iron clad commitment to PCP (probably PCP2 — Post-colonial paradigm). If I’m talking about you and you’re still reading, try to follow Phillips’ reasoning here and you might find some bitter ironies worth savoring:

So let’s get our head round this: Palestinians committed to the destruction of Israel fled from other Palestinians committed to the destruction of Israel into Israel, which is providing them with sanctuary and medical treatment, while the president of their putative state who bases his claim against Israel on its alleged refusal to admit Palestinian ‘refugees’ refused to allow actual Palestinian refugees fleeing Palestinian violence access to that same putative state, while Israel agonises over whether to grant them permanent asylum. Surreal, or what?

Hard to ask for a better formulation of the Middle Eastern world through the PCP looking glass.

One of the Fatah men said that

    he too was wounded at the beginning of the clashes. The father of three, who has undergone surgery in his leg, said he first tried to go to a hospital in Gaza City, but was blocked by Hamas. ‘Hamas had closed all the roads leading to the hospital. I wanted to go to Shifa Hospital [in Gaza City], but Hamas did not allow any ambulance to enter our area. In the end, my brother drove me to the Israeli border,’ he said. When asked if he wanted to go back to the Gaza Strip, he replied: ‘It would be like a death sentence for me. I hope they don’t force us to go back.’

Note here how often the Palestinians complain about Israeli checkpoints — which exist to keep out suicide terrorists — forcing women to give birth without reaching the hospital. But in their own culture, closing off hospitals to people whose lives are in danger is an ordinary tactic. Classic demopaths, they complain of Israeli misdeeds which are but the most venal version of practices they adopt at convenience.

Closed the roads leading to the hospital… not allowing ambulances to enter the area to collect the wounded… When reading the coverage of these clashes later today in the British press or watching and listening to it on the BBC, just consider what that coverage would have been like if it had been Israel rather than Hamas that had behaved like this. The Jerusalem Post reports:

    At least 12 of those who were wounded in Saturday’s fighting were under the age of 15…

What is that unfamiliar sound emanating from all those who routinely scream that Israel kills Palestinian children? It is called silence.

The ultimate shame of Palestinian/Arab/Muslim culture, and the ultimate revelation of their addiction to demopathy can be found in the following appalling verity: Muslim Arabs have more rights in Israel than not the Jews have, but than their fellow Arabs have in any Arab or Muslim state in the world. For Israel to go would be a catastrophe of untold proportions for human rights.

For all those progressives who love phrases like “speaking truth to power” and “the only thing necessary for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing” — where is your voice?

48 Responses to Gaza Anomalies Blow PCP’s Circuits: Result – The Sounds of Silence

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  2. Diane says:

    Ah, RL. Another blindingly clear analysis of what is right under the world’s nose. Don’t ever stop.

  3. oao says:

    Another blindingly clear analysis of what is right under the world’s nose. Don’t ever stop.

    It’s the world that won’t stop to be blind, no matter what RL does.

  4. David M says:

    The Thunder Run has linked to this post in the – Web Reconnaissance for 08/05/2008 A short recon of what’s out there that might draw your attention, updated throughout the day…so check back often.

  5. Solomonia says:

    If the NGO Chattering Classes Had Anything to Say About It……

    …Israel would be dismantled. That would be their great contribution to universal human rights. Richard Landes, writing about Israel’s…rescue?…of an entire clan of Gaza ‘militants’ begins his post: A few friends of mine went to a party in Jerus…

  6. Sophia says:

    I’d like to know who these “Anglophone reporters” are – the world bases opinions largely on their work – yet they apparently are deeply biased to the point of total inaccuracy.

    At least one I can think of writes for The Guardian in Britain. I’ve forgotten his name, but can try to recall it – regardless his articles were so viciously anti-Israel that I felt compelled to write to him. He actually responded; his point of view apparently is at least partially driven by ideology. I think he feels Israel’s very existence is at best a “mistake”, and from that point of view follows everything he writes – facts be damned.

    That’s a serious problem for reporters for the simple reason that ideology can blind us to what’s actually in front of our noses.

    Another aspect of this is economic politics: the very fact that some people are poor makes them more worthy. Thus if people see that Gaza and the West Bank are less prosperous than Israel, it follows that Israel is bad per se. The concept that perhaps Israel is prosperous and creative precisely because it defends human liberty seems to elude certain well-meaning individuals.

    Yet – put this another way: how can people who are internally repressed, not *merely* by an external oppressor, if one actually exists, but by a culture which supresses individual freedom and creativity, hope to flourish?

    Misinterpretations of Marxist thought have led to totalitarian systems and of course religious and cultural repression are real too. The fact that one or the other or both come into conflict with more liberal systems doesn’t make the liberal system per se evil simply because it does better – yet the doctrine of defending the underdog no matter what has led us to a point, emphatically underscored in the Middle East, where “progressives” defend systems, states and cultures which oppress people. At the same time they damn progressive states which fight for human rights, whose very charters or constitutions or declarations of independence celebrate human dignity and liberty and the rights of the individual.

    That’s absolutely surreal.

    Issues of poverty and oppression must be dealt with, but not by damning the existence of people, nations and ideologies which work to free people from poverty and oppression, or which simply are themselves struggling to exist. Survival isn’t per se bad! If it were the planet wouldn’t have evolved to support life, would it? Yet we see an astonishing degree of guilt focused, not only on Eretz Israel but on the Jewish people, simply for existing – and that does extend also to the West.

    People in the West are some of the worst offenders, feeling guilty just for existing, and projecting that worldview; perhaps that’s why they belong to NGO’s in the first place? It’s a delicate balance because awareness of the suffering of others, of the need for reform, is a positive sign in a civilization, and can indeed be used to create progressive solutions.

    We’ve somehow found ourselves in a real Catch-22 and it’s crystallized in the worldview created by the manifold enemies of Israel, combined with our own guilt and a heartfelt desire to do good.

  7. Beautiful.

    When all is said and done, Israel- and Jews- can be counted on to be the perfect enemy and the perfect refuge for the Palestinians. Why? Because the Palestinians and Arabs know that the Israelis and Jews everywhere can be counted on to behave in a civilized manner.

    Israel and the Jews are the one constant and stable rock in their miserable lives. Arafat, the PA and Hamas have been decades long monuments to corruption. Despite billions and billions of dollars, whenever things got really bad, Israel was always there to bail the Palestinians out.

    Books can be written on that irony.

  8. Natan says:

    Well written, brilliant analysis, and so what? Trying to understand the mindset of the purveyors of PCP is an exercise in futility at best. Any zealotry is impervious to reasoning, and it is a form of mental disorder. Unfortunately, this mindset has permeated the BBCs and CNNs, academia, even politics.If only we had the luxury of ignoring it, yet we can not if we want to survive.

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  10. Adam says:

    Thankyou-thankyou-thankyou… exhilerating article, like an avalanche of lucidity, chased down with irony.

  11. This is one of the most relevant and revealing articles that I have read in a while. It exposes what many of us already know. I have a feeling that many in the media know too, they just can’t bring themselves to admit it. Or maybe they are just that stupid and devoid of logic.

  12. Nancy Albert says:

    The United States’ Iraq War has performed a heroic service to the Middle East, especially places like Saudi Arabia and Gaza, or wherever polygamy rates are high. For each extra wife, one gullible young, testosterone driven male is needing to be offed. Muslims did this for centuries by territorial invasions staffed by extra men seeking bounty (or was it booty). Now that this is no longer possible due to worldwide condemnation, they teach jihad to cull the dupes. What the US has done is to kill off maybe two generations of extra Muslim men and peace could be at hand if Iraq can conquer corruption. We have won the war but unless that sick culture is revolutionized we will need to do this every 20 years. These people must start limiting family sizes and educating/employing females or they will never build capital. We have to do that to survive the competition as well. One man is usually not capable of educating the 19 women that one woman can produce. A Palestinian is not really a man unless he can boast 50 children, I have read.

    The China and India economic revolution could never have happened without birth control, but the alarming results are, beside it being excessively brutal in method, it has produced a lot of boys by selective abortion. Here we have another potent ingredient for violent warlike societies. Needing and protecting women is probably a bigger incentive for war than religious reasons. Certainly it factored in to the Sunni Awakening when imperious Al-Qaida foreigners demanded wives from the tribal sheiks, to their horror.

    It is odd to me that people don’t see the terrible repercussions of polygamy and dismiss it as a “lifestyle choice”.

  13. Tom W. says:

    Do you know the real reason western leftists hate Israel?

    I mean, Israel is basically a socialist country. At least half of her politicians are such appeasers that they’d horrify Neville Chamberlain. Israelis regularly interfere with the duties of the army and police. There are even Israelis who call for the destruction of Israel.

    So why do so many western leftists–particularly Europeans–hate this leftist country, Israel?

    Because the Israelis can fight.

    That’s why. The Israelis, when necessary, can mop the earth with just about anyone. They punch far above their weight. When they fight, they fight to win. They kill terrorists without hesitation.

    European leftists no longer have the biological imperative to fight or survive, and they hate anybody who refuses to surrender to Third World savages.

    Israel learned from her mistakes of the 2006 Hezbollah war. Reading about the retraining and re-equipping of Israeli troops will give you goose bumps. If another war breaks out, the world will be shocked at the swift and ruthless way Israel disposes of her enemies.

    And western leftists will gnash their teeth in impotent rage.

    Good.

  14. David says:

    A truly pathetic attempt to be funny through gross misrepresentation of history and demeaning the well documented suffering of Palestinians at the hands of Israel, a state that has been repeatedly accused of war crimes and crimes against humanity by Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, B’Tsellem (Israel’s human rights group) as well as the United Nations and other groups. I could go on and on. Suffice, however, to point out that it was Ariel Sharon (then defence minister) who ordered the IDF to surround the Sabra and Shatila Palestinians refugee camps in Lebanon in Sept. 1982. As per his instructions, the Phalange were then permitted to enter the camps, where for three days they slaughtered Palestinians, mainly women, children and old men. Not only did the Israelis not permit the Palestinians to leave, they watched the horrors from observation towers around the camps, supplied the Phalange with night time illumination (to see better as they murdered the defenceless Palestinians) as well as bulldozers to get rid of the bodies. The Israelis also suppled the Phalange with cokes during their “breaks” from their butchering. At least 2,000 Palestinians were murdered with Israel’s complicity.
    Also, during their unprovoked invasion of Lebanon in 1982 (the PLO had adhered scrupulously to the cease-fire negotiated at the behest of Pres. Reagan), the Israeli invaders murdered over 18,000 Lebanese and other Palestinian civilians – as determined by the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee. All of this is well documented and common knowledge to those who actually know the history of the region.

  15. A_Nonny_Mouse says:

    Regarding
    Comment by Sophia — August 5, 2008 @ 2:46 pm
    “Another aspect of this is economic politics: the very fact that some people are poor makes them more worthy”
    ==================================================

    It’s not just “economic”. It’s interesting to note that this liberal, anti-Western mindset automatically frames those with less power as “good”. It doesn’t matter what they believe or what tactics they use; if the agitators claim to be “resisting oppression” by a Western power, the deep thinkers of the MSM fall into lockstep and declare the Western state to be –pick one– evil, illegal, immoral, repressive, inhumane, arrogant, militaristic….

    They pick David over Goliath reflexively, even when the “David” of a given instance is the aggressor and is intent on destroying the values and achievements of our own culture.

  16. cubanbob says:

    Israeli’s should remember the old adage “kindness to cruel is cruelty to the kind”. She should remember that her enemies would destroy her if they could. Cut of Gaza as you would amputate a gangrenous digit. Cut off all food, power, medical supplies and treatment and whatever else to provide Gaza. Let Egypt deal with her former citizens. And if the Arabs won’t, so be it.

    As for the NGO’s and UN along with the leftist foreign media, expel them in to Gaza. And never let them back in.
    Let them enjoy The Lord of the Fliestan.

  17. cubanbob says:

    ” A truly pathetic attempt to be funny through gross misrepresentation of history and demeaning the well documented suffering of Palestinians at the hands of Israel, a state that has been repeatedly accused of war crimes and crimes against humanity by Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, B’Tsellem (Israel’s human rights group) as well as the United Nations and other groups. I could go on and on. Suffice, however, to point out that it was Ariel Sharon (then defence minister) who ordered the IDF to surround the Sabra and Shatila Palestinians refugee camps in Lebanon in Sept. 1982. As per his instructions, the Phalange were then permitted to enter the camps, where for three days they slaughtered Palestinians, mainly women, children and old men. Not only did the Israelis not permit the Palestinians to leave, they watched the horrors from observation towers around the camps, supplied the Phalange with night time illumination (to see better as they murdered the defenceless Palestinians) as well as bulldozers to get rid of the bodies. The Israelis also suppled the Phalange with cokes during their “breaks” from their butchering. At least 2,000 Palestinians were murdered with Israel’s complicity.
    Also, during their unprovoked invasion of Lebanon in 1982 (the PLO had adhered scrupulously to the cease-fire negotiated at the behest of Pres. Reagan), the Israeli invaders murdered over 18,000 Lebanese and other Palestinian civilians – as determined by the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee. All of this is well documented and common knowledge to those who actually know the history of region.”

    What drugs do you take? Seriously. Christians kill Muslim Palestinians but it’s Israels fault. Right. Maybe the Phalangist revenged themselves for all the crimes Arafat and the PLO committed in Lebanon. As for your ceasefire tripe, please. The human rights groups you mention are all leftist bullshitters. Where were they when real war crimes were committed by communist? Cambodia? North Korea? Cuba? Zimbabwe? The list is rather long. And what of Darfur and everywhere else Muslims and Arabs commit atrocities on a constant basis against others? Yeah those “human rights” organizations criminals accusing others of committing crimes. That’s pretty rich. Shrinks call your type of screed projection.

    Isn’t funny that Palestinians are always being expelled , killed or corralled in to camps by their fellow Arabs? Or is that bit of real history to much for your Marxist/Stormfront psyche to handle?

  18. RickD says:

    Richard gives us a clear explanation of something that’s almost self-evident to some and totally anathema to others.

    I read a thoroughly depressing article in wsj today Hugo Chávez’s Jewish Problem, which describes the spread of anti-semitism in today’s Venezuela. In fact there are very few Jews in Venezuela and little justification for any prejudice against them there. Yet Chavez is using this issue as a way of blaming others for the failures of his policies.

    In the end it seems that the oldest hatred will not subside. One would hope that intellectuals and a Western media that prides itself on accuracy would not tar itself with this hatred. Not in our lifetimes.

  19. Jonathan Levy says:

    Excellent article Richard – keep up the good work!

  20. Shane says:

    To Cubanbob,

    Instead of the human rights violations in places like Cambodia, etc. Why not mention one that happened at the same time, or at least the same year. Hama Syria 1982.

    And David;

    If it is such a huge violator of human rights, a simple answer to the question please: Why did the Palestinians seek refuge status in Israel? I mean his whole article hit the point. When push comes to shove, the Palestinians know that Amnesty International and the rest of those NGO’s are lying through their teeth and Israel treats people very well. You are just to f***** stupid to see the obvious.

  21. laZardo says:

    What is shameful is the possibility is that in the event that Israel is destroyed, these same people will look upon the chaos that descends, nod their heads in approval and say “Well, at least they aren’t being oppressed anymore.”

    Great article, keep up the good work.

  22. calculated emotions says:

    Oh, David, David. You keep repeating that all you say is well documented, and yet, not one link.
    Will you please enlighten me and give links to the respected (as I’m sure all your resources are)verified and academic historical documents that tell about the Cokes that IDF supplied to the Phalanges? Oh, and if food and beverages are detailed in those documents, could you say how many matzos were baked with the blood of those Palestininan kids?

    Thank you kindly.

  23. Steve Bronfman says:

    As an avid follower of near-eastern politics and current affairs for many years now I’ve probably read 100’s of anti-Israel news reports from the leftist (esp. British) media and 100’s of opinion pieces just as critical of Israel. Basically for 40 years now the leftist Euro-dhimmis, arabs, arabists, muslims, and their ideological fellow travellors have been trying to undermine Israel’s legitimacy at every opportunity. This is not news, its not new, its not a surprise. Its time to stop critiquing and complaining. Its time for action.

    British supporters of Israel need to immediately stop paying the television tax and stop funding the BBC. Jews, Israelis and supporters of Israel need to boycott the BBC, Guardian, NY Post etc. Jewish business owners need to immediately stop buying commercials on CNN etc. We need to completely devest from the UN, and all other anti-Israel bodies in the world. Durban II will be just as bad as Durban I and we’ll all sit here from our armchair blogs complaining. Its time to take action. We need to literally not take part into any anti-Israel media, companies or bodies. We need to found our own organisations and create a new paradigm. We need to excommunicate Noam Chomsky, Norman Finklestein, George Soros and all the other self-haters. If not kidnap them and try them for treason in Israel.

    Long live Israel! Fuck the Euro-dhimmis. Support Mark Steyn, Ezra levant etc….

  24. Soccer Dad says:

    The ngo problem…

    Yesterday I blogged about a Physicians for Human Rights report that accused Israel of pressuring Palestinians seeking medical treatment in Israel into becoming informers. Honest Reporting provided a link to Gerald Steinberg who questions the claims: Si…

  25. Cynic says:

    Sophia and A_Nonny_Mouse,

    Another aspect of this is economic politics: the very fact that some people are poor makes them more worthy.

    If Israel was not part of the equation nobody would give a cigarette butt about the conditions of the Palestinians.
    Just as the conditions those Arabs lived in under Jordanian and Egyptian rule were ignored, just as the Christians slaughtered in Lebanon in the 70s by Arafat and co was ignored; even by the Vatican and the Orthodox Church as they smuggled arms to the PLO.

  26. Cynic says:

    calculated emotions,
    Why don’t you go and find your own links and research the town of Damour where more than than 500 Christian men women and children were massacred by the the PLO in 1976.
    Go research the whole Lebanese “civil” war which was started by Arafat after he fled Jordan when little King Hussein killed several thousands of his thugs in “Black September”.

    Shane,
    The human rights violations by Robert Mugabe when he started killing tens of thousands of Ndebele after he became Prime Minister (research that episode of another of Carter’s meddling) were ignored just as the world has tut tutted with this latest orgy of HRViolations of his own Shona people.

  27. Cynic says:

    Also, during their unprovoked invasion of Lebanon in 1982 (the PLO had adhered scrupulously to the cease-fire negotiated at the behest of Pres. Reagan)

    Strewth, what has he been smoking?
    Which ceasefire/hudna you referring to?

  28. RickZ says:

    Melanie Philips puts it right: “So let’s get our head round this: Palestinians committed to the destruction of Israel fled from other Palestinians committed to the destruction of Israel into Israel, which is providing them with sanctuary and medical treatment, while the president of their putative state who bases his claim against Israel on its alleged refusal to admit Palestinian ‘refugees’ refused to allow actual Palestinian refugees fleeing Palestinian violence access to that same putative state, while Israel agonises over whether to grant them permanent asylum. Surreal, or what?”

    It is this mental disconnect within our so-called humans rights organizations that always leaves me appalled. The Palestineans are not wanted by their Arab brothers, except as disposable pawns to be wielded against Israel. Why is not Saudi Arabia condemned by these so-called rights groups for their religious apartheid, which is real and can have serious consequences for those who do not follow those apartheid rules? Crickets, of course.

  29. Shane says:

    The reason I brought up Hama is because its Arab on Arab at the same time as Lebanon but the death toll was 10 times greater. The fact is, every single person Israel shoots(according to the liberal press) was just an innocent farmer walking down the road with his AK-47 and RPG. My feeling is the surrounding countries fuel the fire by forcing the Palestinians and others(after all, Palestine started with a few hundred thousand, not millions of people) back into that life style.

  30. mike devx says:

    #14 David is a PERFECT illustration of why logic and rationality can never prevail in a discussion with ideologues. David is incapable of seeing the truth. Israel is the enemy and can do no good. Palestinians are wronged angels. Israel stole Palestine. Etc, etc, etc, etc.

    Don’t waste your time with the idealogues. Ignore! Ignore! Ignore! In a democracy, we need 51% to effect good against evil. In solving the problems of a mostly-good Israel against a mostly evil-Palestine, let’s get a majority and fix it, and let the idealogues like David howl in their endless protests. They cannot win; they cannot effect their wrong-headed and destructive policies if the rest of us simply focus on what is good and what is right.

    Articles such as this one, that highlight the blatant outrageousness of the “PCP”, and expose hypocrisy and appeasement of evil, do more good than you’d believe. Keep the link to this story going! Send it to all of your friends. Over time, we will convince the good people to choose the good side. The good people who do care but have been deeply misinformed. Spend your time on them, not on idealogues such as David, who will never, never, never agree. There is no solution to any problem – even the smallest and most minor! – that will gain 100% support, and you should not waste your time.

  31. Cynic says:

    Shane,
    I was just using the African version to to illustrate the hypocrisy.
    What the Arabs have done to each other has never caused a whimper from ONGs (should be OP[para]Gs because of the government financing they receive) or the MSM. Going back to Nasser’s gassing of Yemenis, before Saddam came on the scene, to Assad’s removing of the population of Hama.

    By the way here’s something I gleaned from
    The Forgotten Christians of Lebanon

    Where he cites another site:
    The full brunt of the prolonged assault that commenced in 1975 was borne by the Christians, who also found they had to contend with a series of negative stereotypes about them, generated and popularized mainly by a host of Western journalists. These distorting stereotypes were quickly internalized by many in the West and did irreparable damage to the image of a community that was fighting for its life.

    Deja Vu?

  32. […] Richard Landes: The latest news from Gaza, Israel, and the West Bank illustrates all the anomalies involved in this fundamental failure of the “human rights” community to understand what’s going on: black hearts and red spades galore. […]

  33. oao says:

    Because the Palestinians and Arabs know that the Israelis and Jews everywhere can be counted on to behave in a civilized manner.

    What we consider civilized behavior they consider weakness.

    That’s why. The Israelis, when necessary, can mop the earth with just about anyone. They punch far above their weight. When they fight, they fight to win. They kill terrorists without hesitation.

    used to be the case. that’s disappearing quite fast.

    If another war breaks out, the world will be shocked at the swift and ruthless way Israel disposes of her enemies.

    i wish I could believe it. don’t set your expectations too high based on the past. it’s not just the training, it’s the politics and command quality that will determine the result, and those are getting worse.

    They pick David over Goliath reflexively, even when the “David” of a given instance is the aggressor and is intent on destroying the values and achievements of our own culture.

    that’s exactly how chomsky describes his thining. iow, he does not judge right from wrong, but weak from strong, and he does so on the basis of claims of victimhood, not real analysis.

    Cut of Gaza as you would amputate a gangrenous digit.

    that would be a western and US justification of withholding ALL support from israel, which cannot survive without such support. the world is desirous of such excuses.

    Yet Chavez is using this issue as a way of blaming others for the failures of his policies.

    so what else is new? anti-semitism was, is and will be precisely scapegoating.

    a simple answer to the question please: Why did the Palestinians seek refuge status in Israel?

    i could guess the answer: had it not been for israeli occupation and oppression, the palestinians would not fight each other. the arabs have no free will at all, whatever happens to them it’s israel’s fault.

    Its time to stop critiquing and complaining. Its time for action.

    there’s a good reason it won’t happen, and part of it has to do with THE LOGIC OF COLLECTIVE ACTION (by Mancur Olson). and i am not sure that even if it does happen, it will change anything for the good

    My feeling is the surrounding countries fuel the fire by forcing the Palestinians and others(after all, Palestine started with a few hundred thousand, not millions of people) back into that life style.

    and you only realized it now? this has been the conscious policy of all arab countries since 1948: to keep the palestinians festering in hatred as a weapon against israel. and they can see its fruits today. it has worked. with the intense help of the west.

    let’s get a majority and fix it, and let the idealogues like David howl in their endless protests.

    i’m afraid there’s too few of us and too many of them and the trend is in their favor, due to collapse of education, fall of knowledge and reason, fear of jihad and appeasement. jews are the traditional scapegoats for everybody else’s crap.

  34. […] approached the crossing into Israel) in Israeli hospitals.” You can link to her piece through Augean Stables. While you’re there, take a look around.  You may want to read a little about the Al-Durah […]

  35. Danny says:

    To be fair to David, he has probably read these “facts” in respectable – by middle east history standards – sources. Some are even arguably true. Take the ceasefire, there was a temporary one in place a la current “ceasefire” in Gaza. To say that it was “unviolated” by the PLO for a couple of weeks following some 7 odd years of near continuous attacks may be true in the strict sense but clearly is misleading. Also the testimony, any wanker can come and say whatever he likes. Doesn’t make it any truer than when Jeff Skilling came to Washington and defended Enron as a great company…. or this guy http://foreign.senate.gov/testimony/2006/NortonTestimony060913.pdf… just because he claims that the border post-2000 was “quieter” than the 30 years before – despite six kidnap attempts in six months in the lead-up to the war – doesn’t make it true.

    As for the Phalange, it was the IDF who stopped them once it became clear what they were doing and the accepted figure is around 800 dead tops. Given the number of journalists who entered the camps and reported on the massacre, Israel clearly DIDN’T give bulldozers to the Phalange to hide the massacre. What they did do was clear up the bodies – which were starting to decompose in summer heat. The coke comment is probably just fabricated.

    As for the “civilians”, don’t all arabs magically become “civilians” after they die?

  36. Eliyahu says:

    to #14
    Also, during their unprovoked invasion of Lebanon in 1982 (the PLO had adhered scrupulously to the cease-fire negotiated at the behest of Pres. Reagan), the Israeli invaders murdered over 18,000 Lebanese and other Palestinian civilians – as determined by the US Senate Foreign Relations Comm.

    yes, the PLO was “scupulous” about the “Cease fire.” Maybe it was like the current “cease fire” with Hamas in Gaza that the current clowns allowing olmert to be prime minister made for no good reason. Maybe Condi asked olmert and barak to make the cease fire as a favor for her sake. And he did it. Meanwhile, the Hamas is building up weapons stores and digging tunnels in Gaza for hiding weapons, ammunition, prisoners, and as fortifications for another attack that they will start when they are ready. The Fatah and other PLO gangs were doing the same in Lebanon before Israel went in June 1982. Israel took huge stores of weapons and ammo out of tunnels dug into the mountains of south Lebanon.

    Then David uses the word “scrupulously.” That reminds me that in the first half of 1979 the Nation magazine –pro-fascist liberals by that time– stated in defense of the newly established Khomeini regime in Iran that the men writing a constitution for it had “impeccable civil libertarian credentials.” I wonder if the similarity between “scrupulous” and “impeccable” is more than accidental. Are such words used habitually by a certain kind of pro-fascist liberal in order to defend their fascistic proteges?? Bear in mind that neither “David” nor the Nation backed up the claim made through these high-falutin, many-syllabled words.

  37. Eliyahu says:

    David’s factually unsubstantiated use of “scrupulously” in #14 sounds like the sort of oily rhetoric that might drip out of the mouth of Shakespeare’s Polonius in Hamlet. It’s disgusting hypocrisy, in a word.

  38. Cynic says:

    Maybe it was like the current “cease fire” with Hamas in Gaza that the current clowns allowing olmert to be prime minister made for no good reason.

    There was another rocket fired into Southern Israel a day ago.
    Kassam rocket hits western Negev

    On Saturday, during clashes between Hamas gunmen and members of the Fatah-linked Hilles clan, several mortar shells were fired into Israel. Security officials assessed the shells were directed against the clan,

  39. Cynic says:

    For anybody interested in the blatant hypocrisy of the media (one needs to remember the manner in which Rwanda was reported ) here is a post on the HNN blog

    Rwanda accuses French of genocide and name names.

    The documents, obtained by lawyers for six Tutsi survivors who are bringing a case against France for “complicity with genocide” at the Paris Army Tribunal, suggest the late President Mitterrand’s support for the Hutus
    Read the whole quote.
    Human rights are relative.

  40. oao says:

    Are such words used habitually by a certain kind of pro-fascist liberal in order to defend their fascistic proteges??

    they are not focused on their fascist protegees, but on their hatred of the west, where they lost the socio-economic war with the collapse of communism and socialism. i doubt that they pay much attention to what their protegees do, in fact they make every effort to ignore it to avoid cognitive dissonance. they likely resolve any of that by convincing themselves of the “greater good” of bringing down capitalist colonialist west.

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  43. […] wäre das eine Katastrophe unvorstellbaren Ausmaßen für die Menschenrechte. Richard Landes, The Augean Stables, 04.08.08 in einer Reaktion auf die Mordkampagne der Hamas vom 02.08.08 gegen die Fatah im […]

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  45. […] among those who militate for human rights around the world. As one missionary for these failures noted at a party in Jerusalem, “Israel is the greatest violator of human rights, and her disappearance would […]

  46. […] among those who militate for human rights around the world. As one missionary for these failures noted at a party in Jerusalem, “Israel is the greatest violator of human rights, and her disappearance would […]

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