Eurabian loss of depth perception: Only in Belgium?

Belgian correspondent Rudi Roth writes:

Only in Belgium

Belgian NGO urges Muslims to boycott Israeli “bleeding” dates during Ramadan

    Muslims in Brussels are being urged by a Belgian NGO, INTAL, to boycott Israel and Israeli dates during Ramadan. It seems that it is the first time ever that in Belgium – a country of Christian culture – (and in Europe) Muslims are being specifically targeted by non-Muslims with a view to boycotting the Jewish State. Muslims account for 30% of the population in Brussels, which is also the “capital of Europe”. Israeli dates are very popular in Europe.

Belgique: appel à boycotter les dattes israéliennes à l’occasion du ramadan

and also on:

Primo Europe

It is a real religious importation of the conflict… and maybe an acceptance that it is a religious problem and not a territorial one?

The Belgian NGO, Intal, received government money from cooperation development for making a brochure for use in school.

In the brochure stereotyping of Jews and Arabs is exerciced for the young students.

The same organization already cooperated with the federation of Morocco, and associations of Antwerp to organise other boycott actions against Israel.

I see this less as a religious phenomenon, than as an excellent example of the scapegoating of Jews and Israel that the European “left,” fearful of Islamism and eager to curry favor with Muslims, engages in. In this sense, such a move represents a perfect illustration of the dynamics of Eurabia – fear of the aggressor prompts Europeans to identify with them (and thereby act like Dhimmi), and uses an “progressive discourse” that has lost its moorings and foundered in blood libels, to justify, indeed intensify the forces hostile to the very existence of progressive values.

How can one expect Muslim students in Europe to develop civic courage when their alleged “elders” in a civil polity cater to their basest emotions so blatantly.

As the joke runs, “what’s the difference between a brownnoser and a sh*thead? Depth perception.

23 Responses to Eurabian loss of depth perception: Only in Belgium?

  1. E.G. says:

    Boycotting Israeli products campaigns are not new, especially in Belgium (I recall the blood-dripping chocolates in reply to the blood-dripping oranges, about 3 years ago). But the trend seems to be growing all over (Western) Europe.
    Here’s a reply clip.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saeky9I5T9c

  2. Eliyahu says:

    This story brings us back to the al-Durah affair. Then too it was official or semi-official Europeans, the French state TV broadcaster France2, that encouraged and incited Arabs/Muslims in France, indeed around the world, to attack Jews over that now notorious fake [not explicit incitement of course. But it doesn't have to be explicit]. Here it is a so-called NGO, funded by its govt, therefore not really “non-governmental,” that incites Muslims in Belgium against Israel. So Israel’s enemy is not only Arabs/Muslims but an EU govt.

    We bear in mind that EU money funds the Judeophobic propaganda on Palestinian authority TV, radio, schools, mosques, etc.

    The question is whether the Euros do this out of their own Judeophobia, wanting to attack Jews/Israel through the instrumentality of Arabs/Muslims in order to seem righteous, uninvolved, morally superior [by helping the poor, put upon, unfortunate Arabs], OR whether they do it out of fear of the jihad inclinations of the Arabs/Muslims which they hope to divert from themselves by inciting the Arabs/Muslims to attack another, who conveniently happens to be a long-standing target of fanatical hatred on the part of Euros.

  3. E.G. says:

    Eliyahu,

    It’s some socio-political movements/circles/lobbies that are behind the funding and the incitement. And both motivations are there. Plus a third, as perverse: equality. On the one hand there are formal, functioning, cooperation links with Israel so, on the other hand, there “has to be” some balancing. Especially since it’s about poor, stateless, oppressed…

    BTW, boycott actions are illegal in some EU countries.

  4. E.G. says:

    Still, there may be quite a few who think they’re buying time and/or peace.

  5. nelson says:

    I have to disgree with RL about the European left acting out of fear of Islam. Actually, since, as they see it, Islamism provides muscle and manpower for their ideas, it is thanks to the Muslim radicals that the leftists feel “courageous” enough to take an explicitly anti-Semitic stand.

    Most Europeans may want stability and are rather afraid of what the Islamization of their continent implies, but the leftists in general see this as the worst possible world, a world urgently in need of revolutionary change, because any change would be necessarily for the better. They don’t see Islamism as a danger, but rather as an opportunity.

    you’re right and i did make an elision between the frightened liberals and the aggressive radicals, who respond to the violence promised by islamism in two significantly different ways. thanks for the clarification. -rl

    Ever since the fall of the Soviet bloc and the USSR, the left has no positive goals left. They have only negative, nihilistic goals and all they want is the destruction of this world order they hate so much.

    Coming to think of it, even the most suicidal Islamists have some idea of what kind of order, world or society they’d like to see built upon the ruins of this one. The left, on the other hand, seems to wish no further outcome than the reduction of everything to ruins. The leftists are in love with destruction.

    here you may go overboard. the left and the islamists are in love with destruction. both have dreams of how the millennial kingdom on the other side of the massive cataclysm — in which they’ll eagerly take part — will look. equally disastrous, one progressive (ie never been seen before), the other restorative (ie sharia caliphate). both, if attempted, will fail miserably. so it’s not cognitive processes that bring people to support this stuff. i’d argue for a strong nihilistic component on both sides. – rl

  6. oao says:

    I see this less as a religious phenomenon, than as an excellent example of the scapegoating of Jews and Israel that the European “left,” fearful of Islamism and eager to curry favor with Muslims, engages in. In this sense, such a move represents a perfect illustration of the dynamics of Eurabia – fear of the aggressor prompts Europeans to identify with them (and thereby act like Dhimmi), and uses an “progressive discourse” that has lost its moorings and foundered in blood libels, to justify, indeed intensify the forces hostile to the very existence of progressive values.

    so you came around to my position?

    It’s a NGO but funded by the govt, it apparently has no much function except pandering to arabs and pissing on joos, and it’s full of empathy — for the euro population scared of jihad.

    when i say that the west is gone i know what i’m talking about.

  7. oao says:

    Boycotting Israeli products campaigns are not new, especially in Belgium

    i urge them to be serious about boycotting and stop taking advantage of all the science, technology and medical israeli innovations.

    The question is whether the Euros do this out of…

    it’s precisely the convergence of all these that pushes them to such actions

    Especially since it’s about poor, stateless, oppressed…

    empathy (ray, you here?)

    BTW, boycott actions are illegal in some EU countries.

    does anyone care about laws in europe?

    I have to disgree with RL about the European left acting out of fear of Islam.

    you don’t have to, one argument does not negate the other, it’s their convergence that prompts action. i’ve argued often in the past that the left, having lost the socio-economic fight in the west has, looking for some raison d’etre, has extended its search for oppressed to the 3rd world and has been looking for ways to bring the west down. the muslims are indeed a good partner for that. and i wish them nothing but success bringing sharia over themselves. the muslims will wipe the floor with them.

    The leftists are in love with destruction.

    always were. what did lenin, stalin and mao do? some may argue they built societies, but they actually destroyed them — what they built were not really societies. i know, i live in one.

  8. oao says:

    Rubin Reports: Why the Silence on Islamist–and Sometimes Muslim-Majority Regimes–Persecution of Christians?

  9. Rich Rostrom says:

    Note: Your link to INTAL’s web page is grossly malformed. In fact all of the embedded links in the quotation part of the post are malformed or wrong. (Two point to the post itself.)

    done. it happened because i prepared the post offline in msword, and the leaning quotation marks apparently throw off the reference.

    Anyway – INTAL is a classic left-wing activist operation. Like most such, it of course sucks heavily on the public teat. (Did you know ACORN affiliates received over $10M in grants from the U.S. government during the Bush administration?)

    A scan of their front page shows a string of standard leftist causes: Zelaya in Honduras; the “Cuban Five” (Castro agents who were caught in Miami, convicted of espionage, and are now in prison); and of course Palestine.

    I don’t think the motive here was “Eurabian thinking” or “dhimmitude”: just plain-vanilla PC leftism.

  10. Eliyahu says:

    The motives of the Euro “Left” in supporting the Arabs cannot be understood without knowing the history of the Euroleft-Arab-Muslim relationship, which somehow moved in parallel with the Euroimperialist-Arab-Muslim relationship.

    Yves Ternon, in his book on the Armenian genocide [Les Armeniens, Paris: du Seuil 1977, 1996; p 158] writes that circa 1907, the Armenian Dashnak party joined the 2nd International “despite the violent opposition of the Bolsheviks.” Naturally, the Bolsheviks asserted that they opposed the Dashnak party joining the 2nd Int’l because it was nationalist as well as socialist, like the Jewish socialist Bund, which it opposed for those same reasons. The Bolsheviks claimed to stand for pure class struggle and class war, undiluted by national considerations. However, this was just Bolshevik/Commie hypocrisy. After taking power in the Russian Empire, with the help of the German Empire [remember Lenin's sealed train?], the Bolsheviks issued, through Stalin’s Commissariat of Nationalities, a manifesto in favor of Muslims. It was called: An Appeal to the Muslims of Russia and the East. See link:

    http://ziontruth.blogspot.com/2005/10/bolsheviks-for-jihad-genocide-stalins.html

    So what were the Bolsheviks’ motives for opposing the Armenian national struggle in 1907??? They hardly feared them the way a Belgian burgher, comfortable in his traditional Judeophobia, might fear Muslims in 2009. Likewise, when the Bolsheviks issued their pro-Muslim manifesto in late 1917, they did not fear them as our Belgian burgher might have. In 1917, the Bolsheviks owed a debt to imperial Germany, the ally of the Ottoman genocidists. But what about in 1907?? Their opposition to the Dashnaks in 1907 for being nationalist appears as fraudulent, as hypocritical in view of their embrace of Muslim bigotry in 1917; indeed Stalin & Co. overlooked the Armenian genocide of the war years.

    In a broader context, the Euro imperialists too opportunistically looked for support among Middle Eastern peoples. The British in the 19th century aided both Jews in Israel and Druze in Lebanon. The French supported Christians generally, and the Lebanese Maronites, uniates with the RC church, in particular. The Russians supported the Greek Orthodox to which the Russian [Pravoslavni] church was joined in many ways. The German Empire declared its sympathy for Islam, as if desiring to defend Islam against other empires. Then, in the early 20th century, the British clearly took the side of Muslims in many parts of the world, India, Egypt, Israel, and Turkey. All of the major powers [incl. the USA] sided with Ataturk during his expulsion of Greeks from Smyrna [1922], whereas the Soviets/Bolsheviks/Communists/ also sided with Ataturk, although the USSR did not have naval ships in the harbor during the expulsion and massacre, as did the major Western powers.

    I agree with Nelson about the EuroLeft NOT acting out of fear of Islam. I agree with RL that
    the left and the islamists are in love with destruction. both have dreams of how the millennial kingdom on the other side of the massive cataclysm — in which they’ll eagerly take part — will look. equally disastrous, one progressive (ie never been seen before), the other restorative (ie sharia caliphate).

    But the Left –or most of it, its most prominent elements– is thoroughly corrupt, from chomsky to the Guardian, and so on. Its ideas are a jumble. Lenin defined imperialism as finance capitalism. That is, Big Capital had to be imperialist. Now, many Arabs who eagerly support the Hamas, Hizbullah, etc. with funds, are also big capitalists. Consider the sheiks of the Persian Gulf and the Saudis. But the supposedly hardcore Marxists in the West never call them capitalists nor imperialists nor do they criticize the Islamofascist focus on Israel, that is, Israelophobia, Judeophobia, that also characterizes certain Western govts, such as UK and the supranational EU. So in effect, objectively as the Marxists used to say, they –the “marxists”– are allied with the UK, EU, etc. in hatred for Israel and Jews.

  11. oao says:

    I don’t think the motive here was “Eurabian thinking” or “dhimmitude”: just plain-vanilla PC leftism.

    they are not mutually exclusive. at the very least they are pushing lefty causes but relaying on dhimmitude and “eurrabian thinking” in the public and the elite.

  12. oao says:

    regarding boycott of israel: let them boycott all medical science from israel and use instead the arabian science from muhammad (pbuh):

    http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/34186_Saudis_Cure_Cancer

  13. oao says:

    eliyahu,

    you may find comfort in the validation of your arguments about the US foreign service:

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2009/07/024045.php

  14. Cynic says:

    oao,

    Israel is moving on to developing its own combat ships so I suspect that in practice the “boycott” will just hurt British sales.
    They have scuppered deals with Lockheed-Martin for Littoral Combat Ships and Northrop Grumman for corvettes and will improve on a German design, apparently.
    Somewhere I read that they have a deal with a Brazilian ship building crowd.

  15. oao says:

    Israel is moving on to developing its own combat ships so I suspect that in practice the “boycott” will just hurt British sales.

    i figured that much.

    the point was not this specific deal, but the general trend to take actions against israel which makes it harder for her to defend herself.

    if you follow the weapon deals with the alibama admin, you cannot avoid noticing this trend e.g. what happened with the F-35. they also, in true adherence to their free market and competition prohibited israel from competing in arm sales to india.

    but then again, americans always evoke free markets and competitions when it’s convenient.

  16. oao says:

    utopian ideology ends always in catastrophe.

  17. Cynic says:

    oao,

    With regard to your #19 link I think you should be aware of the possibility of
    Medication that can protect humans against nuclear radiation has been developed by Jewish-American scientists in cooperation with a researcher and investors from Israel.
    being embargoed for Israelis by Ram and co.

  18. oao says:

    i am aware. i mentioned it in another thread.

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