It takes two for Pallywood/Hizbollywood to work: Brazen forgers and complicit media

Hezbollah released a video today that they say refutes the IDF aerial footage released two days ago.

Here’s the IDF footage taken shortly after the nighttime explosion:

It’s damning because they are removing the incriminating evidence of their violations of the cease-fire agreement before they let the UNIFIL forces in to inspect.

Here’s the Hizbullah footage.

There are several gaping holes with this argument.

1. The Hizbullah video was shot in broad daylight, whereas the IDF footage was taken at night, shortly after the blast occurred.

2. The position of the truck in the Hizbullah version and the IDF video are not the same. In the Hizbullah version the truck is backed up directly to the loading dock and there are two men shoving the debris into the back of the truck. In the IDF footage, the truck is parked a little bit away and there are at least 5 men carefully carrying the disputed object and loading it onto the truck.

3. In order for the Hizbullah video to disprove the IDF footage, their video has to be of the same event, which is impossible given points 1 and 2.

4. If it is not of the same event, and the Hizbullah video was shot the next day, then that does not disprove anything, since they could have shown up, and started clearing debris while filming themselves. This would also account for the presence of the Lebanese Military and UNIFIL forces since Hezbollah gave them access to the explosion site several hours after the explosion, after they had removed various items.

5. The IDF video shot shortly after the explosion shows Hezbollah cordoning off the area, loading items which could be a missile onto a truck and then driving the trucks 4km away to a known Hizbullah arms depot in another village. After they were done clearing the house, they let UNIFIl and the Lebanese Military enter the area.

The most obvious question that comes to mind is: “Who do they think they’re kidding. Do they take us for imbeciles?”

Here’s the Beeb:

The Hezbollah footage suggests the objects in Israel’s spy-plane video were debris from the blast not weapons.

Pending an investigation, it is impossible to verify either claim.

Reuters is not any better.

Not a word on the glaring discrepancies. It’s just “he said… she said.” So I guess the answer to the question about who Hizbullah takes us for is, “fools.” And the evidence is, they’re right.

Final note: Why did they bother to do this cheap and silly fake as “disproof”? Because they do care what we think, and they want to manipulate us. So if we call them on this stuff, we actually do put the squeeze on them.

So the real question is, “what’s wrong with the Beeb and Reuters?”

26 Responses to It takes two for Pallywood/Hizbollywood to work: Brazen forgers and complicit media

  1. oao says:

    i dk if you noticed but everything these days goes by “he said…she said” and often “he said” only (see Goldstone).

    this is the new foundation of western civilization.

  2. Cynic says:

    So I guess the answer to the question about who Hizbullah takes us for is, “fools.”

    Maybe they take us for Goldstone?

  3. Cynic says:

    So the real question is, “what’s wrong with Reuters?”

    They like the deep pockets.

  4. Eliyahu says:

    off topic/

    Here’s some important news. It undermines even further the notion of a “left-right” political spectrum. The recently published memoirs of Sir Samuel Hoare reveal that Mussolini was a British agent. Towards the end of WW One in 1917, when the British feared that their Russian and Italian allies might be pulling out of the war, they started paying Benito Mussolini, a socialist journalist heretofore, for articles in the Italian press calling for continuing the war, that is, continuing Italian participation. Mussolini got paid 100 pounds per week, a lot of money at that time.

    Hoare was a prominent political figure in the UK back in the 30s and 40s. He wrote his memoirs in the 1950s, but they were only published recently.

    I don’t know all of the details in Hoare’s book. But I’m sure everyone would like to know when –if ever– he stopped being a British agent.

  5. oao says:

    So I guess the answer to the question about who Hizbullah takes us for is, “fools.”

    we ARE fools (present company excluded).

    They like the deep pockets.

    sure. but many of their local reporters are arabs or westerners who would have no career were it not for their access to hezb’allah.

  6. oao says:

    not to meantion lives.

  7. Aviv says:

    My takeaway: Hezbollah was forced to respond. Very very good precedent anyway. Usually Israel’s enemies set the tone and Israel is on the defensive, forced to do the damage control.

  8. E.G. says:

    1. For a shorter answer ask what’s right with Reuters.

    2. I partly agree with Aviv: the initiative was Hezb’s (bringing in weapons, breaching UN resolution) and Israel was quick to denounce it, with sufficient proof, quite well distributed.
    But if the deciding heads are gullible enough to buy Hezb propaganda…

  9. oao says:

    Usually Israel’s enemies set the tone and Israel is on the defensive, forced to do the damage control.

    what damage? do you think they’re scared they’ve been found out?

    as long as the implementation of 1701 is ignored and hexb’allah has veto in govt the only damage is to lebanon and potentially to israel, not to them.

    they just moved the weapons from house to house. big deal.

    do you really believe that the west will all of a sudden become tough with them? indeed, what reuters does is making sure it won’t, because that’s what it wants to hear.

    is there any more evidence needed to figure out what hezb’allah is and what it does?

  10. Aviv says:

    what damage? do you think they’re scared they’ve been found out?

    Do you think they forged the “counter-proof” for kicks? They had at least two other options:
    1. To simply ignored Israel’s video and wait for the criticism to tide over, or
    2. To just claim it was fake and expect to be taken at their word, without resorting to a full-blown Hezbollywood production. This is how the Islamic movement handled Israel Police footage of stockpiled rocks, presumably to be used as weapons, inside the Al-Aqsa mosque.

    Israel’s forcing the enemy to respond to its own media initiative is a rare, blessed occurrence even if the West is still being willfully dumb about the whole issue. It’s like solving half of a math problem – Better a partial achievement than nothing at all.

  11. oao says:

    1st, they did not go to a lot of trouble to construct the rebuttal.

    2nd, it is done so poorly and it is so obvious that it’s a lie that it’s ridiculous.

    which means that they realize that they did not really need to persuade the west — just throw something in that the gullible ones will swallow lock stock and barrel because that’s what they want to hear anyway. they just gave them an excuse for them to do nothing.

    the issue is not whether they responded or not, but that they continue to violate 1701 and nothing is done about it even when it’s exposed.

    the rest is conversation.

  12. Eliyahu says:

    I agree with both oao & Aviv on this.

    But getting back to Hizbullah’s willing accomplices among the Western press:

    Michael Totten reports this conversation in Beirut:

    I am amazed all over again every time I meet a Westerner in Lebanon who admires Hezbollah or gets defensive on its behalf. Last time I visited Beirut I ran into an American journalist who said Hezbollah “is trying to raise awareness of Global Warming. Don’t you think that’s interesting?”

    http://www.michaeltotten.com/archives/2009/10/patterns-of-dic.php

    As RL says, the liars need dupes, willing or otherwise, unwitting or witting. But this bird who spoke to Totten seems terminally stupid.

  13. Aviv says:

    oao – The conversation, IMHO, counts for a lot. Improving it – indeed, clearing the Augean Stables – could improve many lives around the world, including yours and mine.

  14. oao says:

    As RL says, the liars need dupes, willing or otherwise, unwitting or witting. But this bird who spoke to Totten seems terminally stupid.

    i keep repeating that the real problem is not hamas, hizb’allah, the taliban — it’s the west proneness to suicide.

    The conversation, IMHO, counts for a lot. Improving it – indeed, clearing the Augean Stables – could improve many lives around the world, including yours and mine.

    we will have to agree to disagree on that. conversation is OK, after all i participate in it, but i am extremely skeptical of its effect.

  15. Cynic says:

    Eliyahu,

    As RL says, the liars need dupes, willing or otherwise, unwitting or witting. But this bird who spoke to Totten seems terminally stupid.

    There are plenty of them and for example Roger Cohen’s latest seems to demonstrate that many of them are to be found in one place.
    An Ordinary Israel

  16. oao says:

    cynic,

    it looks as if there is no limit to his idiocy.

    having utterly failed in his iran screeds he now turns screeds on israel which are as ignorant.

    no matter how idiotic you are you can always publish in nyt.

  17. E.G. says:

    Here’s an interesting idea:
    Rename the Streets for Neda

    How long did it take to do it for little Mohammad al-Dura?

  18. Eliyahu says:

    getting back to the idiot who spoke to Totten above.

    He probably doesn’t know that
    1) the environmentalist movement was preceded 100 years ago in America by the conservationist movement. This latter movement was led by Teddy Roosevelt, inter alia. He and many other Republicans supported the movement.
    The leftists and “progressives” etc. of the time were against it.

    2) Hitler was fond of goody goody movements. He was a vegetarian, a eugenicist, and so on.

    How can these “journalists” be so simple minded? Maybe that’s what their employers want.

  19. oao says:

    How can these “journalists” be so simple minded? Maybe that’s what their employers want.

    there are many factors underlying stupidity: there is usually ignorance and lack of appreciation/acquisition of knowledge, genetics, childhood environment (parents, schools, friends) etc.

    but when it comes to modern stupidity, particularly history, politics, economics ignorance has a major contribution. most of those people are schooled, not educated, like alibama who went to good schools but is a moron when it comes to history, economics, foreign cultures, etc.

  20. oao says:

    also, go and check out the programs at journo schools (some journos don’t even go through them) — see what they are taught.

    since hiring them does not require more than that, the consequences are pretty logical and not surprising.

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  22. oao says:

    here are examples of journos who at least one of which and probably both have never gone through any journo school and who know zilch about the ME:

    http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/pollak/135072

  23. LaDuqesa says:

    Of course, it couldn’t've been a Zionist attempt to deceive, could it? Oh no, the Zionists are as pure as the driven snow! They’ve never ever been caught out lying.

    And even if Hezbollah was “guilty” of hiding weapons, good for them for having them. I hope they get more, the better to give the Zionists another bloody nose when the filth try to invade sovereign Lebanon again.

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