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Al Durah as Blood Libel: Opening the Door to the Equation Zionism=Nazism
JEWS LIKE NAZIS RHETORIC IN THE WAKE OF AL DURAH (2002-2005:
While some immediately compared Israel to Nazis in the aftermath of the incident (above photo from demonstration in Paris on October 6, 2000 at which the cry “Death to Jews!” was heard in a European capital for the first time since the Holocaust), it took the “Jenin Massacre” to make the comparisons go mainstream.
“I have to wonder about people who compare Israelis to Nazis, I ask myself, why do they hate Israel, which is, after all, the Jewish state, so much?” Elie Wiesel
• Portuguese Nobel laureate Jose Saramago compared the Israeli treatment of Palestinians in the West Bank to Auschwitz (March 2002) and later declared that the Jewish people no longer deserved sympathy for the Holocaust. (October 2003)
• Binghamton University (NY) professor James Petras defends Saramago’s remarks and argues for the validity of the analogy between Israeli and Nazi policies. (April 2002)
• Belgian parliamentarian says that Israelis are “making a concentration camp out of the West Bank.” (April 2002)
• Norman G. Finkelstein, professor of political science at DePaul University, writes that “if Israelis don’t want to stand accused of being Nazis they should simply stop acting like Nazis.” (April 2002)
• Irish Poet and Oxford academic Tom Paulin calls Jewish settlers “Nazis.”(April 2002)
• Michael Hoffman, a former reporter for the New York bureau of the Associated Press, publishes a book titled “The Israeli Holocaust Against the Palestinians.” (2002)
• Michael Neumann, a philosophy professor at Trent University in Peterborough, Ontario, in “Israelis and Indians” (2002) states that Jewish settlers want peace “just as Hitler wanted peace.”
• French anti-Globalization activist Jose Bove use of words ‘internment camps”, “watchtowers,” “roundups” to describe Israeli actions, implying a comparison with Nazism. (2002)
• In Greece, mainstream media references to Auschwitz, Mauthausen and Dachau are often made in cartoons depicting Israeli soldiers as Nazi soldiers.
• Welsh politician likens Israel to Nazi Germany. To him: “Hitler’s Nazi regime occupied Europe for four years only. Palestine and the West Bank have been occupied for 40 years.” (January 2003)
• Greta Duisenberg, Dutch, wife of the European Central Bank (ECB) chief Wim Duisenberg, called Israeli policies in Gaza and the West Bank as “worse than the Nazi rule in Holland.” (January 2003)
• In an article in French newspaper “Le Monde” titled “Israel, Palestine: The Cancer” the authors wrote that Jews, a “dominating and self-assured people” who are “behaving as a superior race” and who “were the victims of a pitiless order are imposing their pitiless order on the Palestinians. The Jewish victims of inhumanity are displaying a terrible inhumanity.” (June 2002)
• Antiwar rallies in the West feature flags and posters that equate Israel and Jews with Nazi Germany
• British MP compares the situation in Gaza to the Warsaw ghetto. (June 2003)
• Portuguese commentator Sousa Tavares wrote in newspaper PÚBLICO that: “If there is a World War III, it will be because of Israel … and of its attempt to solve the Palestinian problem, not through any peace accord, but through, you have to excuse me, a ‘final solution’ – the political, civic and, if necessary, human extermination of Palestinians.” (November 2003)
• Italian survey found that close to 40 percent of respondents agreed with the statement that “the Israeli government is perpetrating a full-fledged genocide and is acting with the Palestinians the way the Nazis did with the Jews.” (January 2004)
• Irish Nobel Peace Prize laureate Mairead Corrigan Maguire compared Israel’s nuclear arsenal to Hitler’s gas chambers. (December 2004)
• The Young Women’s Christian Association (YWCA) 2004 Witness Report concluded that Israelis were trying to “rid the land of Palestinians” just as “Hitler tried to exterminate the Jews.”
• German survey reveals that 51% of Germans believe that Israel’s present-day treatment of the Palestinians is equivalent to the Nazi atrocities against European Jews during World War II. (December 2004)
• Anthony Lipmann, in a comment piece in The Spectator (UK) compares the battle for Jenin to Auschwitz. (January 2005)
• Ken Livingstone, mayor of London, compares Jewish reporter to “concentration camp guard.” (February 2005)
• Pro-Palestinian activist Rachel Corrie is compared to Anne Frank (April 2005).
• Review of Jacqueline Rose book “The Question of Zion,” (2005) who compares Israeli treatment of Palestinians to German treatment of Jews.
I’m not sure, but wasn’t Durban in 2001 the trigger to such comparisons being acceptable in public discourse?
E.G. says:
I’m not sure, but wasn’t Durban in 2001 the trigger to such comparisons being acceptable in public discourse?
Durban or not, the trigger lies ultimately in anti-Semitism, which might even be unconscious to some perpetrators: i visit an Israeli blog where i have made internet friends. There is a Christian American who visits it very often who consistently says he is pro-Israel. Yet, in criticizing some things about Israelis, he managed to use almost all the Israelis-are-like-Nazis tropes. I have collected them all in my (numerous) replies to him. In case, E.G., you want to have an example of latent, unconscious anti-Semitism, there you are (the comments section):
http://www.israpundit.com/archives/52018/comment-page-1#comments
PS. Credit to globalization: a non Jewish atheist Greek fighting it over with an American Christian!
http://frontpagemag.com/2013/bruce-bawer/exposing-the-anti-israel-peace-industry/
I have seen people claiming to be Christians on the internet claiming to like Jews, as if somehow that is unique, then bash Israelis and slip in hateful things about Jews. I never believed they were Christians but Muslims pretending to be Christians. I believe that happens a lot. I’ve never met a Christian in life that dares say such things. Have you? We do have people like the KKK but I’ve never met one that I know of.
Hi Emily
I did not mean to generalize about Christians. Yes, i am an atheist, but i am not hostile to religion – except for these Muslim tenets that provide that the man has the right to beat his wife and that homosexuals should be persecuted, and that infidels may be exterminated with impunity.
This particular American that i criticized is definitely a Christian, he has engaged lots of times in discussions on theological issues, he quotes Scripture, he generally seems very knowledgeable on Christian theology. But, of course, this does not mean that all Christians are like him.
al durah was the patron saint of durban.
If that’s the case, a collection of visuals and quotes from Durban-I involving/invoking the little saint is de rigueur.
And also a question: who symbolises the hundreds (thousands? who counted?) Iranian children sent to another world by getting exploded in the minefields on Iranian officialdom orders during their war with Saddam’s Iraq?
I checked:
http://blog.standforisrael.org/issues/world-opinion/durban-ii
(1st pic. is from Durban 1)
The hate literature distributed during the NGO conference included caricatures of Jews with hooked noses, Palestinian blood on their hands, surrounded by money, and Israelis wearing Nazi emblems.
http://jcpa.org/jl/vp468.htm
I believe there are two parts to this.
1:Plain old fashioned anti-semitism.
2:The big lie. As plied by Nazis and Communists.
Centuries of anti-semitism in both Christian and Muslim lands leaves a fertile environment for anti Israel attacks.
The political left are the inheritors of Soviet anti Israel policies. Combine this with the lefts alliance with Islamists and you have a perfect storm for the big lie. Interesingly, it’s ironic that much of this rhetoric comes from Arabs, who still greatly admire Hitler and the Nazis. Thus demonstrating they understand the lie.
German survey reveals that 51% of Germans believe that Israel’s present-day treatment of the Palestinians is equivalent to the Nazi atrocities against European Jews during World War II. (December 2004)
It is convenient for some Germans to think the above, because, as Dr Landes has spotted, it alleviates the guilt over the Holocaust.
But saying it in public?
Even if the Israelis managed to behave exactly like the Nazis against the Palestinians (and, of course, they don’t), still it would be inappropriate for a German to talk about it.
If my father had tortured, raped, and killed a three year old toddler, would i be justified to say into the face of the toddler’s now grown up sister that her cousin did precisely the same thing to somebody else?
How do we spell “emotional vulgarity” in German?
Well, in the PoMo zeitgeist, why not state one’s mind in public?
Guilt riddance didn’t happen in a day, and I’m far from sure that guilt is the lesson to be carried over from the Shoah. Indeed, why would or should a German or a Belgian born in the 1980′s feel guilty (or proud) about her great-grand-parents’ acts during WWII? There are many other, far more instructive, lessons to be learnt from that period and transmitted over generations.
Teaching kids about feeble helpless European Jews driven to the camps makes the strong Jews defending themselves in Israel appear “un-Jewish”. And, propaganda aiding, when the “un-Jewish” guys drive feeble helpless Arabs to camps – there you go: a substitution of roles.
And we know we should always stand by the weak, don’t we?
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For the weak-minded: this is not a justification or a moral endorsement of Israel vilification.
E.G.
why would or should a German or a Belgian born in the 1980′s feel guilty (or proud) about her great-grand-parents’ acts during WWII?
They shouldn’t.
But the Germans should have the decency not to make comparisons of Israelis with Nazis, considering what their Nazi ancestors did to the Jews.
If the Israelis were indeed engaging in activities morally equivalent with the Nazi ones, and if the Germans had to speak about it so as to prevent it, still they could criticize Israel with other analogies, not with the Nazi-analogy.
Using the latter analogy is psychological barbarianism, if you are German.
I’m not German and you’re right it’s barbarian.
The appropriate lessons have not been taught or assimilated.
Decency is not within the PoMo conceptual realm.
Dr Landes, a comment of mine on Greek anti-Semitism just disappeared, i guess it has been caught by spam filter.
The Jews did it!!!
NOTHING is by accident.
NOTHING is coincidence.
EVERYTHING is planned.
It’s obvious we’re witness to staged theater managed by Vatican agents, and it’s obvious that those Vatican agents include many at Israel’s highest echelons. Israel’s response to these incidents is nothing short of criminal negligence. Israel basically played ball with the whole staged theater for years and years and did nothing to expose it. And it still does. The Israeli SHABAK constantly perpetrates murderous attacks on Israelis to force them to leave Gaza, Judea, Samaria.
To understand what’s really going on I recommend reading:
To Eliminate The Opiate by Rabbi Marvin Antelman
Shabtai Tzvi, Labor Zionism and the Holocaust by Barry Chamish
Also: Anthony Sutton, Carroll Quigley, Eric Phelps.
BS.
It’s not BS. The SHABAK killed Rabin. They also killed Sharon. More than half the country is convinced of this, including the Rabin family, even though the media and courts have tried their best to cover this up. The SHABAK also killed numerous Israelis in Gaza, Judea, Samaria, etc. Both civilian and military. Go talk to Israelis, they’ll tell you the same. The Israeli government, especially the leftist elite, but also many on the right, are agents of the CFR/CIA/VATICAN.
MOSSAD = CIA = VATICAN
יש לך עוד שטויות להפליץ?
תעמולות שלטון ותקשורת הוותיקן בישראל ובחו”ל הם לא שטויות
חדל קשקשת. יש אתרים אחרים, מתאימים יותר לגיבובי הזבאלה מאשר זה. יש שם גם יותר קוראים. יאללה, תתחפף
Learn:
http://youtu.be/nZ_t5JhzBTo
MIKA
The Israeli SHABAK constantly perpetrates murderous attacks on Israelis to force them to leave Gaza, Judea, Samaria.
Why was i under the impression that Israel had left Gaza since 2005?
It’s an ongoing story, DM. The SHABAK’s black-ops false flag attacks caused the Gaza withdrawal, and now the same continues in Judea and Samaria. SHABAK dresses as Arabs to attack Jews. SHABAK dresses as religious Jews to attack Arabs. They been caught at this time and time again. They also use drugged patsies. SHABAK gave tactical security information to their paid Jihadistani agents to facilitate attacks on Jews. And it murders Israelis who’ve learned this incriminating information. Israel is ruled by foreign agents.
They’ve signed away Jerusalem to the Vatican.
SPAM alert.
Learn something:
http://youtu.be/nZ_t5JhzBTo
SPAM.
Why are you so rude? Why are you behaving like a nazi thug? Actually, I know why. You can’t address what I say, because you know it’s true.
More SPAM.
E.G.
Well, in the PoMo zeitgeist, why not state one’s mind in public?
Generally speaking, no problem with it.
But especially the Germans’ talking about Jews by equating Nazis with Israelis would be way too inconsiderate. To my mind,it’s morally ok to harm one’s sensitivities only if:
1) You are saying the truth.
2) You are not the one who has harmed the person in question, thus making her sensitive to this issue.
Merely on account of (1), we may dismiss everything the world says about the moral equivalence about Nazis with Israelis – it’s, simply put, a false accusation.
According to the second condition, the other nations are allowed to make the comparison to Nazis (but, ultimately, must refrain from it, because it is a lie).
But the Germans don’t have that moral right, even if the accusation were true. It is them that created the sensitivity in the first place through the extermination of 6 million Jews.
Even if it is true that someone’s wife is sleeping with Mr X, it is not morally ok to call her a whore if you are Mr X.
The Germans weren’t alone, they had collaborators in the territories they occupied.
I don’t argue against your arguments, I’m not even playing the devil’s advocate.
I’m delivering what I perceive from the reasoning of the baseless, obtuse “anti-Zionist” expressions.
Hey, is that Moishe Pipik disguising as Mika?
Israeli SHABAK Dirty War on Israeli Settlers (part1 of 4 video series):
http://blip.tv/aservant/judea-samaria-peace-pt1-1698384
Israeli SHABAK Dirty War on Israeli Settlers (part2 of 4 video series):
http://blip.tv/aservant/judea-samaria-peace-pt2-1700134
Israeli SHABAK Dirty War on Israeli Settlers (part3 of 4 video series):
http://blip.tv/aservant/judea-samaria-peace-pt3-1701258
Israeli SHABAK Dirty War on Israeli Settlers (part4 of 4 video series):
http://blip.tv/aservant/judea-samaria-peace-pt4-1703202
Martin, all your analyses on the Al Durah affair have been great, i am impressed. I’ ll be away from my computer for a couple of weeks (trying to cut down on smoking) so i won’t have the chance to reply to your reasoned suggestions on where to concentrate in advocating for Israel (i agree with you a 100% on red herrings). I read your dialogue for the uncovering of anti-Semitism, i am sure we will meet again here at the Augean Stables and will have the chance to discuss this, too. Just one observation, i think the questioning style must be adjusted to the interlocutor. If we go about it in an aggressive manner and the other party is a hardcore lefty, we will have a war in our hands in all probability: they tend to be very reactive. Of course, our tone should also depend on what we are trying to achieve and what the audience is. Are we trying to expose the interlocutor’s anti-Semitism in a dialogue where the audience is right-wingish or leftish? This should be a consideration.
It’s been very rewarding meeting you, see you again.
“Questioning style should be adjusted to the interlocutor?” I really think that that is a fundamental mistake. Your questioning style or whatever else should be adjusted to only ONE thing: that what YOU stand for. That’s why keeping your balance is the first prerequisite! Once you’ve done that, and you KNOW what you stand for, everything comes easily. And that it works like that is also part of what philosophers call the “natural social order”. We’ve lost all that ‘science’, maybe not intuitively in natural settings, but intellectually when thinking about it in political settings. By ‘science’ I mean the science of Honoré de Balzac, or Fjodor Dostoïevsky, common sense sociologists faithful to ‘methodologial individualism’, without a need for a word like ‘sociology’ (or ‘interlocutor’). Where is the dialogue going, when you’re busy “adjusting your discussion style to the interlocutor”? Down the drain! And what we will end up with is a world full of enraged people shouting at each other solipsistically. We’re almost there already. Just look at what Moishe Pipik aka Mika is coming to. (See also: theories about Jewish canaries in the coal mine.)
Martin, it’s very simple, I stand for truth. That’s what Dostoevsky stood for, even though it put him in opposition to the Vatican. I don’t know enough on Balzac to comment on him. I understand that what I say is uncomfortable to hear because you’ve been emotionally conditioned to short-circuit any rational analysis of it. The people who control us are experts in psychology and emotional manipulation. They are also expert mass murderers.
Beware of the mosquito on the wall: it’s a Mossad engineered agent. Transmits all you do to you-know-whose HQ.
It can also call its friends, endowed with other skills, to operate on your very person.
And see you, too.
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